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Verne the Orange Hydrapath
Tue, 03/23/2010 - 16:42 — sushinut
What's the status on Verne for member use (of course, once TSRDU is open again)?
Someone added to the wiki page for Verne that an SBU needs to be completed. Are there members who can use it? If you are one such member would you be interested in doing a job at cheaper than the retail rate for this:
http://www.infinitystamps.com/oscommerce/product_info.php?products_id=77
Not for me, but a member of a woodworking forum I'm on. He wants to have a stamp with a short name on it in fancy script (like gothic or such).
If you're interested, I can put you in touch with the person.
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vertical mill
I failed to mention... if someone is that talented on the vertical mill, I wouldn't want to rule that out. ;)
Verne?
If I'm the only one that thinks calling our CNC Vertical Mill Verne is not a great idea, let me know and I'll drop it forever. Just in case you wonder (as I did) how someone came up with that name, here goes. The mill is orange. They went from that to Orange Julius to Jules Verne. The humor misses me and it doesn't help describe it in any meaningful way. I mean if we were going to name it, wouldn't it be the big orange? NO, I'm not suggesting that either. I think it's the MHP HydraPath Mill.
I have a lot more respect for our tools than to give them silly names. Again, if I'm old fashioned or missing something really fun, let me know. After all, this is your TechShop and you should have it the way you like it.
Scott
Now to answer the question
The status on the MHP HydraPath is that it has been made to work but not correctly. No class has been written and no member has been cleared to use it. Hmmm.
I will need to find someone to get it working properly, and ready it for classes, or replace it with something that works.
Looking at the item he wants made, the $140 is probably a fair price. Of course it depends on the design. Now sometime in the future, I would hope we could make something like this, but it probably won't happen any time soon. Perhaps when Dayton comes back this summer, he will help us get this thing up and running unless we find someone else to do it sooner.
We would have to see the design before knowing whether the customer's design could be done on the vertical mill. Probably not though.
Scott
Funny...
...that you can respect an inanimate object, yet not enough to be on a first name basis. ;)
So, in my attempt to try and fit in with the (other) nut jobs here, I decided to take someone's advice that it was apparently called Verne. Go figure. Last time I take someone's advice at TS. Suggest we beat up the yahoo(s) who came up with the whole sordid scheme. Hopefully, that'll teach 'em to knock off their attempts at humor.
re: the info requested: thanks.
Hold it...
Hey, just cause I said I didn't like it doesn't mean nobody else does. I was only trying to show that maybe not everyone liked the idea so a discussion would follow to see which way the majority went. I probably worded my response too strongly.
How does anyone else feel about it? Is it cool to give the machines names? Obviously someone thinks it is or it never would have happened in the first place.
Scott
LOL
hehe... I normally wouldn't endorse violence to settle such a dispute, but I thought I'd just throw it out there. See if it'd stick.
I doubt most people care. My personal vote would be to let anyone who wants to call a machince/tool/device/door by a human name to just let them keep doing it. As long as they do it under their breath... and possibly not around potential members, like on a tour. It's when they expect me to call it by their pet name, that I'd be generally opposed.
On the other hand, if someone spends some serious blood, sweat, and tears fixing one of these things, I wouldn't mind in the least if they got naming rights to it. Like Adopt-A-Highway. :P
Verne? No, thanks.
I had no idea what Verne was until Scott clarified. I think announcing SBUs on Verne, Larry, or Melissa on a public forum sends a message of flakiness (or even exclusion) to potential members who troll the website. My $0.02.
Agreed
Let's drop the cute names and call a tool what it is. There's a lot to be said for sounding like you know what you are talking about when you know the difference between slip joint pliers, channel lock pliers and and lineman's pliers (for example)...and using the right terminology helps everyone learn the right way first.
I, for one, welcome my new,
I, for one, welcome my new, orange, steampunk-reminiscent overlord and will continue to call him Verne until such time as I can take an SBU and actually use him for something.
Drop the name
Members calling the MHP HydraPath (CNC vertical mill) a silly name like Verne implies a joyous sense of play that is clearly at odds with what Techshop is all about.
Agreed and seconded.
Members calling the MHP HydraPath (CNC vertical mill) a silly name like Verne implies a joyous sense of play that is clearly at odds with what Techshop is all about.
Seconded. JOY IS NOT APPROVED.
I submit this for consideration in the wiki:
Magnificent machines get names
People often name the magnificent machines they care about. If you ask which manned spacecraft have been lost, you won't get "OV-102 and OV-099". They'll say "Columbia and Challenger". It's not necessarily disrespectful. Even million $ computers get named. If we can name billion dollar spacecraft, submarines, boats and aircraft, I personally don't see the harm in naming the high-end tools you folks put so much work and sweat into.
Search for the name of this spacecraft: ESA ATV-001 :)
Fair enough
Fair enough. Please, just announce SBUs on the machines using their stuffy real names so members like me who can't spend a lot of time at TechShop know what you guys are talking about. :)
Agreed and seconded
Fair enough. Please, just announce SBUs on the machines using their stuffy real names so members like me who can't spend a lot of time at TechShop know what you guys are talking about. :)
Agreed and seconded.
JOY IS APPROVED
Members calling the MHP HydraPath (CNC vertical mill) a silly name like Verne implies a joyous sense of play that is clearly at odds with what Techshop is all about.
Seconded. JOY IS NOT APPROVED.
Hmmm, this is taking a direction that was not expected. The names "Challenger" and "Verne" are two entirely different things to me but I won't go into that because...
More disturbing to me than the name "Verne" is the concept that "a joyous sense of play... is clearly at odds with what Techshop is all about." Nothing could be further from the truth. At least, I hope that is not the case here. If not naming the machines makes this place not fun for anyone then by all means go ahead and name them. I just wouldn't expect many people to know what you are talking about. Perhaps that is the goal. An inside joke.
If that machine ever gets up and running correctly, there will be a lot of joy surrounding it, believe me. I still don't see how the name creates a lot of joy, but if it does for you, more power to you, because JOY IS ABSOLUTELY APPROVED.
Thanks,
Scott
In case I wasn't clear, my
In case I wasn't clear, my tongue was firmly planted in-cheek for that post. ;-D
Machine names
I worked in R&D at Ericsson a few years back. All of the cell phone development models at that time had girl's names as code names. Sounded cute to be working on Pamela, or Linda, or whatever. It definitely leads to some odd sounding conversations in engineering. I'll leave it to your imagination.
heheheheh
What an interesting turn this thread has taken. Kudos to sharif and Ed Hutton for reminding me of the long history of engineers and fly boys naming the lifeless chunks of metal they've grown to love. As Scott mentioned, "Challenger" and "Verne" may be distinctly different, but what about "Enola Gay" (named for the pilot's mom) or Chuck Yeager's "Glamorous Glennis" (after his wife)? And who would have the audacity to nickname the iconic Bell HU-1 Iroquois helicopter "Huey"??? :)
My point?--
...then by all means go ahead and name them. I just wouldn't expect many people to know what you are talking about.
Ironically, I'll bet that the name "Verne" is now more widely known than "MHP HydraPath." Doh!
Perhaps
I would bet that more people know it as the big orange CNC mill.
Agreed
Now THAT I'll agree with. That's what I call. Except on public forums, when I need to get someone's attention to ask them a question. ;)
big orange
I did not know the mill was called verne but now I do
I do get the inclination to name tools as I have named a few of mine through the years even if you dont count the obscene names I use right before I throw a particular tool....haha
clarity and professionalism on the forums when talking about tools will help all the dummies like me keep up with what is going on